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    Greg Silverado looks at MGTOW in a pragmatic way to show that there are a great many content creators out there getting the message out whether the label MGTOW is used or not, while being aware MGTOW is not a movement.

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    To hear more explanation of MGTOW you may wish to try this other post about a video by Turd flinging Monkey here on Movim.

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      25 September 2017 paulfree14

      You haven't made any point which would make my claims wrong. My critic was about mtgw from what I've got from the men speaking in the video. He made very sexist coments. And I've called that bullshit. I made no point sayn liberation of any gender would be bad/wrong.

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      27 September 2017 preptorrent

      Did he (Greg Silverado) make a very sexist comment? I'm not arguing the point. Just curious what he said on this video which is a sexist comment. He said women "bitch" about each other but he used that as a verb. He wasn't calling women "bitches" as a noun. Is that the part you meant? That can be used for men or women though. I'm guessing the sexist comment (whatever it was) is misogyny not misandry? It is a mistake to hate women. JohnTheOther points that out too. If that is the only MGTOW content you have seen, there happens to be this MGTOW video by Han Lockhart which says men cannot hate women. There is also the Manosphere link on each article. They do not all have the exact same views. Hope that helps :) http://nl.movim.eu/?node/pubsub.movim.eu/manosphere/438b07f8-a8d2-4f95-9fd5-9753e6278bda

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      28 September 2017 paulfree14

      thx prep for your reply. I just watched the first view secounds and turned it off after he said something like, women slap each other, but men talk. ....something like that. ...yeah that's very sexist, thought. I'm anarchist. So I'm all in for liberation of men as for all gender. But I saw a couple of times links between mgtow and anti-feminism even if not used in this termiology. I had just yesterday a discussion with someone being mgtow where it turned out that the existence of mgtow is anti-feminism because it would be missandry. I claim that this is false. It's not because of feminism, it's because of neoliberalism hijacking in the name of feminism. men can't be free if women aren't and women can't be free if mens aren't. In all it seems that all the hieracies and the divisions where horizontal relations could be maintained create conflicts hindering us to build stong solidarity. Once america got colonized they brought in many slaves. Black and white ppl needed to obey to their lords. As black and white slaves felt being in the same position of being opressed a revolte cause of solidarity was more likly. So they started to give the white slaves privilidges when they help to control the black slaves. This maintained a powerstructure breaking the solidarity. This is also seen as the root of apartheid and it's racism.

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      28 September 2017 paulfree14

      the other video you've linked comes also as very sexist to me along as he basicly say it's not important if trump would say something bad about women and only his policies would matter. That misses the fact that policies are one way to define, shape and organize our society. But how we live together and how our society is funtion is also strongly rooted in what kind of culture we create and reproduce.

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      28 September 2017 preptorrent

      I guess I'm just not seeing how he said something sexist towards women but hey it's not all that important. Was just curious. Personally I'm not MGTOW (although people have said I am tantamount to one because I agree with some MRA stuff) and instead I simply agree with some MGTOW points (but it would be impossible to agree with them all because they do not agree with each other). The letters "M.G.T.O.W" always seemed to mean almost everything and therefore nothing. If others want to use the label for them though, I'm cool with that. That other video (Han Lockhart) mentioned that woman who stood up on camera at the Trump rally. I think she actually turned out to be a plant by some other group (a Right-leaning Trump rival or something) but I didn't really look into it much after that. The body language seemed like it may have been contrived so I took that footage with a pinch of salt when it first came out even though I was not sure. One can never trust what is on TV. :)